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If one more piece of crap white person asserts to me that their racism is actually an indicator that they care more about POC than POC care about themselves, I don't know what I'm gonna do but it's going to be loud and unpleasant.

Yes, black people care whether they die. Believe it or not, they are capable of loving themselves and others because they are fucking human beings.

Yes, Muslims worldwide care when other Muslims are oppressive and violent to them. Believe it or not, they don't particularly enjoy being terrorized and having their children stolen.

Yes, even subsapient animals can manage these sentiments. So the fact that anybody ANYWHERE might think that only white people know how to love is pretty much a clear goddamn sign that if anybody is deficient at it, IT IS US WHITE FOLKS. You do not get to claim superior compassion as you literally dehumanize entire categories of people BECAUSE they're being victimized and you're sure that if they really cared they'd have done something about it.

sdfgsdfgsdafsdadfsa this is why nobody likes us

THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES US

Today's actual mood:

Date: 2015-01-11 10:46 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] admnaismith.livejournal.com
I've been struggling real hard with the whole "racist cartoons" vs. "religious terrorists and journalistic freedom" thing.

In fact--if you want to know you're making a difference--it is largely because you are taking such a stand, and because I recognize your moral authority in particular---that I haven't just gone with the same "Je Suis Charlie" response that other people have.

The Wikipedia article on Charlie Hebdo describes it as a leftist, and anti-racist publication that appears to be mocking Islam not out of anti-semitism, but out of anti-authoritarianism.

Seems to me, their offense may be crudity as opposed to racism. As if one were to attempt to criticize Israeli hardliners on the Palestine issue, and did so in a way that had the effect of perpetuating offensive Jewish stereotypes.

I'm trying to think of an Amreican equivalent of Charlie Hebdo, and the best I can come up with is National Lampoon. Which has its own icky baggage. Or perhaps Larry Flint. I never cared much for Larry Flint, but I cared even less for the censors who opposed him with lawsuits.

Seems to me, there is a place for Charlie Hebdo in the world. I'm not sure that's a place I want to stand. I do know I want to stand with Ashley. Ashley's moral compass has pretty much pointed the right way as long as I've known her...so maybe I'm wrong.

Date: 2015-01-12 10:44 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] virginia-fell.livejournal.com
I'd compare them to South Park. Sometimes they strike a great blow at oppressors, but then there's all the ableism, body shaming, racism, misogyny, homophobia, transantagonism...

So if someone did the awful thing and hurt a South Park writer for some of their particularly down-punchy material, I would feel like I needed to express support in a way that wasn't as likely to cause splash damage to the very same people already being slammed by South Park and likely to be further shat on in the aftermath of the attack. I would post examples of South Park punching up or no examples at all.

This would not at all be an issue for me if I didn't see people posting really appalling selections from Charlie Hebdo from a position of gleeful moral superiority that they are not going to let anybody stop them from being racist and misogynist sacks of hickory smoked horse buttholes. If I'd just seen the more subtly flawed images of terrorists' guns versus the pens of the civilized west, I would never have even had this conversation with anybody. Instead I see these tan-skinned beardy gap-toothed turban-wearing scimitar-wielding racialized Muslim caricatures--not even getting into things like how CH portrayed the schoolgirls kidnapped by Boko Haram--with people saying, "I POST THIS BECAUSE I AM FREE!"

No, they post that image out of all possible selections because they're fuckin' racist. There are plenty to choose from that aren't hideously anti-Semitic and anti-Arab, so the fact that so many white folks are taking this opportunity to vent some anti-Arab bigotry? The fact that it's so totally unnecessary to make the point is what makes it so so telling.

I'm all about criticizing religion. I'll criticize religious teachings that I think are borked all the livelong day. What I won't do is completely gratuitously racialize my critiques so that they're as much about "Islam" as complaints about "welfare queens" are actually about welfare. That is what I'm not gonna do.

Date: 2015-01-12 02:09 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] admnaismith.livejournal.com
There you go; that's something I can get behind wholeheartedly.

I see where I wasn't following you---the reactions I've been seeing have pretty much been tasteful "Je Suis Charlie" posts. I have not (yet) encountered the ones treating this as an excuse to indulge their appetites for being raging fucksticks (or when I have, it's been the usual crowd of people who just yell "kill all the Arabs"; they aren't subtle enough to bother with sharing pictures).

It was seriously starting to bother me, feeling like one of us was on the wrong side here and that it might be me. I'm considering a Clash parody song about the killing, "Mock the Casbah."

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