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It's taken me a very very long time to say anything....
'kay. Here it is in its uncensored glory.
Okay.
*deep breath*
There are people I like. There are people I respect. Not many, but they really do exist.
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sorayuy is one of them. Most of you will not follow what I'm doing or really care about the context. That's not your fault, nor is this entry necessarily for any of you.
However! I can't keep my mouth shut after all this time, after going so long not voicing how horrified I was that someone could do this to another human being. I've been reading about this whole monstrous thing, and I've spoken tosorayuy about it. Even I have limits, and I have to heed them once in a while.
Sorry. I just have to MST this entry. For hilarity and, especially now, for Great Justice.
We get signal.
Meet me in real life, and see what I do. THEN make your judgement. Any other way would be an example of poor judgement.
Okay... so it's other people's fault they get the wrong idea about you. Maybe that's why it was so easy for you to be Forgiven. It's everyone's fault but yours.
>o< "No one understands me because I'm full of lies! Wah!"
Yeah. Whatever.
I have no further worries about holding on to some deep-seated bitterness or hurt, because they just aren't there anymore. I've let them go and gave them to Jesus.
I'd have more sympathy if I actually believed you'd been victimized in some way. It's easy to let go of bitterness and hurt when you're not feeling it, when all you're letting go of is the knowledge of what you've done to someone else. I have no trouble understanding that you'd want to let go of it, and I have no trouble understanding why it would be so easy.
Is it really me that you're still upset with? Or are you simply using me as a scapegoat because you're still upset at yourself?
You self-centered ignorant son of a bitch. How dare you? You lied to someone who cared about you for a very long time. How dare you deny him the right to be pissed at you, and how dare you imply he has anything to feel guilty for? His anger is valid. For you to imply otherwise is insulting to him and belittles what you've done.
Then all the bullshit about judging others. I won't even bother to quote it yet. We'll take it piece by piece. Let me tell you. God would have written "hypocrite" at your feet, and I bet if you actually look down it's still there. I'm not taking the moral high ground here, just taking issue with yours.
I can't judge how you live based on how I live, or else I'll be judged similarly. The same applies to you. God says that you shouldn't judge people, so why are you even trying?
In three sentences you've passed judgment on him. You can't judge him based on you live, and yet you imply that he's failing to meet your standards of open-mindedness.
And be absolutely sure that you're "not living in a glass house before you start throwing stones." Be absolutely sure there's nothing unedifying in your heart and mind before you say something.
I think there comes a time when you have to stop playing the victim until you realize what you've done to others. Be absolutely sure you aren't hurting other people before you start bitching about what they've done to you. Be absolutely sure you're facing up to what you've done before you tell people they need to be honest with themselves about anything.
Now for the devotional excerpts. I'm not arguing with the wisdom of the passage itself, but I take massive issue with your application of it.
A time to stop forcing the issue and let God do His work, otherwise you end up creating scars that take years to heal.
Scars for whom? For him or for you? It seems to me like you're equating memories with scars. Yes, you should remember. If unpleasant memories constitute scars, then go ahead and take the damned scars. You've earned them.
If this is some kind of suggestion to him or an effort at helping him... I think you've done quite enough.
As painful as it is, letting go of people and situations you can't control can be the wisest course of action.
Painful? For you?!
The fact that you don't believe you have control over this situation is baffling. You created it. The lies were yours, and this self-righteous evasion of the consequences of your action? Also yours. Like it or not, you've done wrong. God may forgive you, but until you face up to the consequences of your actions and concede that those consequences are valid, your forgiveness is a lie. It is a lie that you are using to prevent you from seeking forgiveness from the people around you. God will forgive anything. It's what he does. Forgiveness from the people you've wronged? Now THAT has to be earned, and I doubt you'll ever be up to the challenge.
Letting go doesn't mean you stop caring. On the contrary, knowing when to take a "hands off" approach and give God some time to work on the situation is a real mark of maturity.
It is not your place to "let go." Letting go is something you do when you've been wronged and need to recover. When you are at fault, letting go has another term: denial. It is not your place to let go, and until the people you hurt are damned sure it will never happen again it will never be your place to let go.
I think that's the point of this critique. You're taking a stand that you haven't earned the right to take. You may have earned forgiveness from God, but that's only the first step of many. You will never earn forgiveness from your fellow man because I can't imagine you EVER proving to your victims that you're genuinely sorry for what you've done. All you do is take the holier-than-thou condescending approach that I quite frankly find a horrifyingly sad excuse for atonement.
You can close your eyes to it if you like. No one can force you to see anything you don't want to see. But we see it. Everyone else sees it. We see just what you described. Liar. Hypocrite. Selfish. And you will probably never change. How sad for you, and how sad for the people to whom you owe a sincere apology.
Okay.
*deep breath*
There are people I like. There are people I respect. Not many, but they really do exist.
sorayuy is one of them. Most of you will not follow what I'm doing or really care about the context. That's not your fault, nor is this entry necessarily for any of you.However! I can't keep my mouth shut after all this time, after going so long not voicing how horrified I was that someone could do this to another human being. I've been reading about this whole monstrous thing, and I've spoken to
sorayuy about it. Even I have limits, and I have to heed them once in a while.Sorry. I just have to MST this entry. For hilarity and, especially now, for Great Justice.
We get signal.
Meet me in real life, and see what I do. THEN make your judgement. Any other way would be an example of poor judgement.
Okay... so it's other people's fault they get the wrong idea about you. Maybe that's why it was so easy for you to be Forgiven. It's everyone's fault but yours.
>o< "No one understands me because I'm full of lies! Wah!"
Yeah. Whatever.
I have no further worries about holding on to some deep-seated bitterness or hurt, because they just aren't there anymore. I've let them go and gave them to Jesus.
I'd have more sympathy if I actually believed you'd been victimized in some way. It's easy to let go of bitterness and hurt when you're not feeling it, when all you're letting go of is the knowledge of what you've done to someone else. I have no trouble understanding that you'd want to let go of it, and I have no trouble understanding why it would be so easy.
Is it really me that you're still upset with? Or are you simply using me as a scapegoat because you're still upset at yourself?
You self-centered ignorant son of a bitch. How dare you? You lied to someone who cared about you for a very long time. How dare you deny him the right to be pissed at you, and how dare you imply he has anything to feel guilty for? His anger is valid. For you to imply otherwise is insulting to him and belittles what you've done.
Then all the bullshit about judging others. I won't even bother to quote it yet. We'll take it piece by piece. Let me tell you. God would have written "hypocrite" at your feet, and I bet if you actually look down it's still there. I'm not taking the moral high ground here, just taking issue with yours.
I can't judge how you live based on how I live, or else I'll be judged similarly. The same applies to you. God says that you shouldn't judge people, so why are you even trying?
In three sentences you've passed judgment on him. You can't judge him based on you live, and yet you imply that he's failing to meet your standards of open-mindedness.
And be absolutely sure that you're "not living in a glass house before you start throwing stones." Be absolutely sure there's nothing unedifying in your heart and mind before you say something.
I think there comes a time when you have to stop playing the victim until you realize what you've done to others. Be absolutely sure you aren't hurting other people before you start bitching about what they've done to you. Be absolutely sure you're facing up to what you've done before you tell people they need to be honest with themselves about anything.
Now for the devotional excerpts. I'm not arguing with the wisdom of the passage itself, but I take massive issue with your application of it.
A time to stop forcing the issue and let God do His work, otherwise you end up creating scars that take years to heal.
Scars for whom? For him or for you? It seems to me like you're equating memories with scars. Yes, you should remember. If unpleasant memories constitute scars, then go ahead and take the damned scars. You've earned them.
If this is some kind of suggestion to him or an effort at helping him... I think you've done quite enough.
As painful as it is, letting go of people and situations you can't control can be the wisest course of action.
Painful? For you?!
The fact that you don't believe you have control over this situation is baffling. You created it. The lies were yours, and this self-righteous evasion of the consequences of your action? Also yours. Like it or not, you've done wrong. God may forgive you, but until you face up to the consequences of your actions and concede that those consequences are valid, your forgiveness is a lie. It is a lie that you are using to prevent you from seeking forgiveness from the people around you. God will forgive anything. It's what he does. Forgiveness from the people you've wronged? Now THAT has to be earned, and I doubt you'll ever be up to the challenge.
Letting go doesn't mean you stop caring. On the contrary, knowing when to take a "hands off" approach and give God some time to work on the situation is a real mark of maturity.
It is not your place to "let go." Letting go is something you do when you've been wronged and need to recover. When you are at fault, letting go has another term: denial. It is not your place to let go, and until the people you hurt are damned sure it will never happen again it will never be your place to let go.
I think that's the point of this critique. You're taking a stand that you haven't earned the right to take. You may have earned forgiveness from God, but that's only the first step of many. You will never earn forgiveness from your fellow man because I can't imagine you EVER proving to your victims that you're genuinely sorry for what you've done. All you do is take the holier-than-thou condescending approach that I quite frankly find a horrifyingly sad excuse for atonement.
You can close your eyes to it if you like. No one can force you to see anything you don't want to see. But we see it. Everyone else sees it. We see just what you described. Liar. Hypocrite. Selfish. And you will probably never change. How sad for you, and how sad for the people to whom you owe a sincere apology.