xenologer: (wickerman)
xenologer ([personal profile] xenologer) wrote2009-03-12 12:01 am
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Please, Mister Norris. Please, sit down.

First, the entry I saw.

Talk of "Revolution" and Texas. Someone please tell Chuck Norris to stop doing anything, please. Or I'm sending Mr. T to show him what's what.

Anyway. Once you're done laughing at that, a more serious question. Do states still have the right to secede? Did they ever in the first place? If they don't have the right to secede--if that is, as President Lincoln seemed to feel, a treasonous endeavor--should there be consequences for statements like this if there really is a system of revolutionary cells waiting for a word from Chuck Norris?

Yeah, I know. There's that laughing again. But once you can breathe, what do you think about this?

[identity profile] arctangent.livejournal.com 2009-03-12 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
No. Just talking is not and can't be treason. First Amendment.

Nor is proposing secession in and of itself treason. *Armed* secession, through violent insurrection, is treason, but if one state legally put up the option of leaving the Union and all the other states ratified it then there's nothing wrong with being in the party proposing it. (See the independence movements in Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc.)

The Civil War established that states do not have the right to *unilaterally* secede, but we still give Puerto Rico the option to vote on retaining their status in the USA on a regular basis.